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		<title>By: donna meacham</title>
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		<dc:creator>donna meacham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 03:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am an adoptive mother of 4 children. The first sibling couple have had horrendous problems and the 2nd sibling couple came along a few years after the first and witnessed a great deal of garbage that has made them leary and quite verbal about their rights.  My youngest daughter age 12 sees a psychologist about once a month.  He&#039;s a great Christian doctor, but M is a toughy.  She told him our relationship (based on what her older adoptive sister - 18, diagnosed with Borderline Personality Disorder and other mental issues) was never going to get any better.  She lies, steals, refuses to do homework, clean her room, etc.  It can be a nightmare.  Her disposition changes based on whether she is getting her way.  My husband refuses to spank her and hasn&#039;t done so in years. He can get her to do things, but she&#039;s disrespectful to him also. Everyday is fight.  I need a good &quot;read&quot; to give me some insight in the life of this 12 year old hormonal tween.  Anyone have a great book they can recommend.  Thanks! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am an adoptive mother of 4 children. The first sibling couple have had horrendous problems and the 2nd sibling couple came along a few years after the first and witnessed a great deal of garbage that has made them leary and quite verbal about their rights.  My youngest daughter age 12 sees a psychologist about once a month.  He&#8217;s a great Christian doctor, but M is a toughy.  She told him our relationship (based on what her older adoptive sister &#8211; 18, diagnosed with Borderline Personality Disorder and other mental issues) was never going to get any better.  She lies, steals, refuses to do homework, clean her room, etc.  It can be a nightmare.  Her disposition changes based on whether she is getting her way.  My husband refuses to spank her and hasn&#8217;t done so in years. He can get her to do things, but she&#8217;s disrespectful to him also. Everyday is fight.  I need a good &#8220;read&#8221; to give me some insight in the life of this 12 year old hormonal tween.  Anyone have a great book they can recommend.  Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: lanne</title>
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		<dc:creator>lanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 09:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS:  I meant that I have been bruised, etc long BEFORE they came to live with us...  The long story short is the two women who were fostering them, lost their right to do so and bc I knew them and always cared for E, DCFS called me and asked if I was still available to adopt...  Of course, I said yes :)  With God all things are possible!  Thankfully!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS:  I meant that I have been bruised, etc long BEFORE they came to live with us&#8230;  The long story short is the two women who were fostering them, lost their right to do so and bc I knew them and always cared for E, DCFS called me and asked if I was still available to adopt&#8230;  Of course, I said yes <img src='http://adoptive-parenting.adoptionblogs.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   With God all things are possible!  Thankfully!</p>
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		<title>By: lanne</title>
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		<dc:creator>lanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 09:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, &lt;br /&gt;
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This is the first site I&#039;ve turned to since having my two new girls with us...  I am a single mother and have an 8 year old daughter and now have my two &quot;newbies.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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They are in my care via a fostering situation in which I will be adopting.&lt;br /&gt;
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E and S are 5 and 2.  E was severely abused and they both have enormous tantrums.  I have known them since July of last year...  Long story short...  I have been bruised screamed at, you name it since before they arrived.  And I love them dearly :)  I really do.&lt;br /&gt;
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I cannot tell you how much I appreciate your transparency.  There is no honeymoon here as we already know each other, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m concerned about my 8 year old and the effect this is having on her.  My heart aches over this so much...  I have been trying to train her up in the dear and admonition of the Lord, but I know it is easier to pull someone down than to lift them up.  Yesterday, I found notes she and E had written that were words that shocked me (for my 8 year old).  They were joking when they wrote it, but its not how my daughter has ever joked...  ever.  Also, she has said a few times this week that she wants it back to the way it was with just she and I.  I realize this is probably normal at this point, but it breaks my heart for her.  Additionally, my other two are used to hitting and hurting each other and whomever.  My daughter isn&#039;t and has been hurt a few times now.  Not badly, but enough for the tears to fall pretty hard.  I can&#039;t help but be scared that I am hurting my daughter by bringing in these two new little ones...  I know she loves them.  She misses them when they are not here and giggles and laughs and plays with them so much.  But these other times SCARE me...  Does anyone have experience with this?&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, the behavior of the 5 year old is bad enough that a group home was considered by her former fosters parents (two women) and also by some of the staff of the various agencies.  She does do much better with us.  And it has only been just over a week that she has moved in completely.  (We used to have her a great deal).  But &quot;better&quot; isn&#039;t good by a long shot...  She has gone through the peeing/pooping/stealing (hording) thing before she came to us, but the lying is out of this world.  As are the tantrums...  &lt;br /&gt;
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I am a Christian and have always used the numerous biblical methods for child rearing.  All of them in balance.  And God&#039;s Word is true!  But, as they are my foster children, I cannot spank.  I REALLY want to know what effective methods of discipline are used by others in my shoes.&lt;br /&gt;
Time outs are somewhat useless.  I am exasperated every single day, many times over, but at the end of each day and many, many times throughout, I feel so deeply blessed...  What an understatement!  But I really need more tools...  and especially prayers.  Please let me know if you have any thoughts!&lt;br /&gt;
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This is my first time on here as I think I stated...  I&#039;m desperate for tools - bottom line :)  &lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks so much!&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, </p>
<p>This is the first site I&#8217;ve turned to since having my two new girls with us&#8230;  I am a single mother and have an 8 year old daughter and now have my two &#8220;newbies.&#8221;</p>
<p>They are in my care via a fostering situation in which I will be adopting.</p>
<p>E and S are 5 and 2.  E was severely abused and they both have enormous tantrums.  I have known them since July of last year&#8230;  Long story short&#8230;  I have been bruised screamed at, you name it since before they arrived.  And I love them dearly <img src='http://adoptive-parenting.adoptionblogs.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   I really do.</p>
<p>I cannot tell you how much I appreciate your transparency.  There is no honeymoon here as we already know each other, etc.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m concerned about my 8 year old and the effect this is having on her.  My heart aches over this so much&#8230;  I have been trying to train her up in the dear and admonition of the Lord, but I know it is easier to pull someone down than to lift them up.  Yesterday, I found notes she and E had written that were words that shocked me (for my 8 year old).  They were joking when they wrote it, but its not how my daughter has ever joked&#8230;  ever.  Also, she has said a few times this week that she wants it back to the way it was with just she and I.  I realize this is probably normal at this point, but it breaks my heart for her.  Additionally, my other two are used to hitting and hurting each other and whomever.  My daughter isn&#8217;t and has been hurt a few times now.  Not badly, but enough for the tears to fall pretty hard.  I can&#8217;t help but be scared that I am hurting my daughter by bringing in these two new little ones&#8230;  I know she loves them.  She misses them when they are not here and giggles and laughs and plays with them so much.  But these other times SCARE me&#8230;  Does anyone have experience with this?</p>
<p>Also, the behavior of the 5 year old is bad enough that a group home was considered by her former fosters parents (two women) and also by some of the staff of the various agencies.  She does do much better with us.  And it has only been just over a week that she has moved in completely.  (We used to have her a great deal).  But &#8220;better&#8221; isn&#8217;t good by a long shot&#8230;  She has gone through the peeing/pooping/stealing (hording) thing before she came to us, but the lying is out of this world.  As are the tantrums&#8230;  </p>
<p>I am a Christian and have always used the numerous biblical methods for child rearing.  All of them in balance.  And God&#8217;s Word is true!  But, as they are my foster children, I cannot spank.  I REALLY want to know what effective methods of discipline are used by others in my shoes.<br />
Time outs are somewhat useless.  I am exasperated every single day, many times over, but at the end of each day and many, many times throughout, I feel so deeply blessed&#8230;  What an understatement!  But I really need more tools&#8230;  and especially prayers.  Please let me know if you have any thoughts!</p>
<p>This is my first time on here as I think I stated&#8230;  I&#8217;m desperate for tools &#8211; bottom line <img src='http://adoptive-parenting.adoptionblogs.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   </p>
<p>Thanks so much!</p>
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		<title>By: Marie Stroughter</title>
		<link>http://adoptive-parenting.adoptionblogs.com/weblogs/discipline-and-bonding/comment-page-1#comment-505</link>
		<dc:creator>Marie Stroughter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 21:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kidsangel: Yes, I&#039;m sure I&#039;ve been duped more times than I care to count, all because of that innocent expression. But, it was a honeymoon phase. She was getting to know us, we were getting to know her. The honeymoon is now over :)&lt;br /&gt;
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Hannah_Rae: It wasn&#039;t too hard to set them, but *sticking* to them *was* hard :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kidsangel: Yes, I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;ve been duped more times than I care to count, all because of that innocent expression. But, it was a honeymoon phase. She was getting to know us, we were getting to know her. The honeymoon is now over <img src='http://adoptive-parenting.adoptionblogs.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Hannah_Rae: It wasn&#8217;t too hard to set them, but *sticking* to them *was* hard <img src='http://adoptive-parenting.adoptionblogs.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: hannah_rae</title>
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		<dc:creator>hannah_rae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 17:53:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. The boundaries are so hard sometimes. My little girl has social boundaries issues, and it&#039;s hard for me to tell when goofing around becomes inappropriate. Good job, Marie. YAY! Stay tough. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. The boundaries are so hard sometimes. My little girl has social boundaries issues, and it&#8217;s hard for me to tell when goofing around becomes inappropriate. Good job, Marie. YAY! Stay tough.</p>
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		<title>By: kidsangel</title>
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		<dc:creator>kidsangel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 07:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I swear...the expressions of innocence are just lovely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I swear&#8230;the expressions of innocence are just lovely.</p>
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